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by rwmj 4574 days ago
You can do "yum install rsyslog". However I agree that it shouldn't have been removed.
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brokenparser 4574 days ago
That's nice, but can you "yum install upstart"?
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rwmj 4574 days ago
No. Why would you want to? Upstart is inferior to systemd in every way and if Fedora supported both then it would have to test every package that contained a daemon twice.
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rlpb 4573 days ago
> No. Why would you want to? Upstart is inferior to systemd in every way...

This is heavily disputed[1]. Please do not misrepresent your opinion as fact.

[1] Example: https://wiki.debian.org/Debate/initsystem

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brokenparser 4574 days ago
Because upstart is easy and systemd is difficult.
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astrodust 4574 days ago
Removing upstart is a feature.

systemd is not hard, it's just different. Those configuration files are a lot easier to generate and get working correctly.

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brokenparser 4574 days ago
As a user, I can't tell what service is started when by which config file and where it should go. multi-user.target.wants? default.target.wants? Why are there windows-style .ini files and why are they all symlinks to /usr? Is it forbidden to make changes now? Really, RedHat?

It just baffles me whenever I look at it.

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astrodust 4574 days ago
What else would you wish for? A registry that can get randomly corrupted, complete with nonsensical keys?

It's baffling, but there's reasoning. systemd is actually pretty slick at the core. A lot of the complexity comes from how flexible it is.

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bkor 4574 days ago
You're just grasping at straws.
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anonymouscowar1 4574 days ago
Linux is hard, let's go shopping!
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