[crbnw00ts]

> Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.

For how many years were people dismissed as nutjobs and "conspiracy theorists" when they talked about NSA spying? Now we know it was all true. Would you like to make a bet as to whether or not the US military-industrial complex acts in its own self-interest when comes to the "War on Terror"? When it comes down to it, there is nothing particularly "extraordinary" about these claims.

> You have made these accusations without any evidence.

The evidence is circumstantial and based on past behavior patterns of the US government. Read "Decent Interval" and its follow-up "Irreparable Harm" by Frank Snepp, or "State of War" by James Risen (for something more recent) to get started on this history. Again, there is nothing "extraordinary" about the previous poster's claims.

[aroch]

>For how many years were people dismissed as nutjobs and "conspiracy theorists" when they talked about NSA spying? Now we know it was all true.

Just because it is true, doesn't mean those people aren't nutjobs or conspiracy theorists.

[toki5]

It's also not at all logical to say:

[Unlikely thing X] came true! Therefore, [unlikely thing Y] will, too!

Even if X and Y were incredibly similar -- in this case they aren't, at all -- that's still not a logical assumption. It's not even evidence toward Y.

[cdash]

There is your problem, you think unlikely thing x came true when in truth it was likely.

[baddox]

I'm curious what your definition of "nutjob" is, given that you would apparently apply it even to people who are correct about all of their theories.

[aroch]

>I'm curious what your definition of "nutjob" is

I don't really have one but if you must, it's probably someone with a dissociative disorder. I'm just noting that you don't have to be sane to be right.

>given that you would apparently apply it even to people who are correct about all of their theories.

When exactly did I say that?

[baddox]

You clearly implied that nutjob status is not correlated to the correctness of one's claims.

[saraid216]

I am very sad that we did not actually land on the Moon after all. :(