[secstate]

__DBAs and Sysadmins (real ones, not these clowns who use nothing but chief or puppet and doesn't know how ./configure && make works) are becoming extinct purely from economical reasons__

As long as we're insulting people ... it's going to be 2014 in three weeks. Who compiles anything for PHP4? Boasting about an ability to handle other people's messy scripts sounds like an anti-pattern to me, and your recommendation to your org should be to develop a plan to refactor anything dependent on a library that has been deprecated for 6 years and actively out of development for 5.

I also feel like the vast majority of folks claiming merit badges as DBAs in 2013 are the product of failed technology roadmaps and technical debt with no plans to pay it off. I'm sure there are still places where true, full-time DBAs are worth their paycheck, but in my experience these are far and few between with the current status of OSS database options and hardware performance.

[dschiptsov]

> As long as we're insulting people

People may assume whatever they wish.)

> Who compiles anything for PHP4?

It was long ago, but you probably wouldn't believe how many people are scared to touch anything, leave alone to perform even a necessary security update - "what if it stop working?!"

Unfortunately, frustration, which sometimes influenced wording of some of my comments, is based on a quite long time in the industry, and I never asked for it.