[batgaijin]

Doesn't this just motivate startups to incorporate somewhere where software patents aren't enforced, like New Zealand?

http://www.cnn.com/2013/10/01/business/10-best-places-to-sta...

I mean at the end of the day this lack of timely reform is fundamentally making people look for asymmetric ways to entirely avoid problems. Is that the way society should be driven? I think that is an unstable driver of future events --- a society that cannot reform itself in a timely manner, that cannot properly forecast events and repercussions, is a society that is forgetting it's responsibility for balancing itself.

I really do not like this behavior; it is abhorrent of a society that can be a seer. I mean there is the usual belief that we are all equal and deserve equality --- but that cannot happen as long as we inherit citizenship, wealth and networks. It is a nice belief but simply cannot be rendered in any sort of predictable manner.

This creates a situation. Their are private discussions on the ongoing nature of patents --- but I feel that more than anything people are forgetting that as the point of a corporation is it's superhuman predictable nature, that the further antagonization of new corporations will balance itself not with a mutated form of socialism but with an asymmetric alliance of corporations - one which favors unpredictability and an increased rate of change.

Wealth and the rate of innovation are separate --- and that fiction will reveal itself at a much faster rate if proper steps are not taken in a timely manner.

[lambda]

Not really. You're going to want to sell your products in the US anyhow; the New Zealand market is tiny compared to the US market. If you sell your products in the US market, you have to play by the US's patent rules or your products won't be able to be imported (but as Samsung has found out, popular US based companies like Apple can get federal government intervention to veto an import ban on their products, but Samsung can't do the same: http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-10-08/samsung-loses-bid-f...).

[batgaijin]

What if the real money is in B2B and this is simply going to push the expenditure into a special trade communication zone? Are American companies going to be banned from certain expenditures? Is is it possible that people would create a proxy corporation to leverage the service in different areas?

I'm probably acting like an idiot. But I mean I think this just is creating a recipe for crazy lawyers to try some shit on someones dime.

[talmand]

In the future the argument will be that with both patent trolls and government spying that doing business in the US is a bad idea in the long run.

[andybak]

There's some rather large markets outside the US too!

How much better is the patent landscape in the EU? I've heard conflicting reports.