[ericHosick]

My sentence was poorly written. I wanted to say "Programming is the critical thinking aspects of developing software and critical thinking is a skill that everyone should master: starting with children."

I don't want everyone to think like programmers. I want programmers to think like everyone else and hope some day that everyone can be programmers.

> It seems like you have a horse in this race.

Ya. We do. We've been working on a new development methodology and from that a visual object language and framework. Initially we coded against the framework but have found that you can visually represent usage of the framework equally well.

> really appropriate for programming beyond toys (or maybe data modeling, but not procedural programming)

Funny you say that. I also agree if you are using traditional approaches to software development (aka procedure programming). However, our framework does not use procedural programming per-se in that it has no paramaterized procedures/methods/functions/sub-routines.