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by dave_sullivan 4593 days ago
How are you getting the data? As far as I know, the dispensaries don't have APIs, so are you just going in and scanning their menus every day? This is actually pretty useful in that you can then comparison shop different dispensaries.

Meanwhile, it will be interesting to see what the federal legal response will be to the various medical cannabis related startups i've seen popping up. In general, it looks like the road to legalization is pretty open (well, if stoners voted and orange county didn't...), but production and distribution still need to be addressed if you're really going to remove the criminal element (which you should).

Anyone know anything about the current legal climate around cannabis in California? Specifically, increase/decrease in raids/legitimacy/rules of/around medical dispensaries and current situation wrt supplying them? Still seems to me to be totally fubar thanks to otherwise unemployable crazy old people...

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>Meanwhile, it will be interesting to see what the federal legal response will be to the various medical cannabis related startups i've seen popping up. In general, it looks like the road to legalization is pretty open (well, if stoners voted and orange county didn't...), but production and distribution still need to be addressed if you're really going to remove the criminal element (which you should).

>Anyone know anything about the current legal climate around cannabis in California? Specifically, increase/decrease in raids/legitimacy/rules of/around medical dispensaries and current situation wrt supplying them?

In 2006-2008, Obama said that he would not prosecute medical marijuana operations that were operating under state law.

However, over the last five years, the administration has been responsible for a number of raids (most famously Haborside and Oaksterdam). These raids were conducted on the grounds that the dispensaries were in violation of tax policies. However, this was an underhanded trick: the dispensaries had no legal way of complying with the policies in question - they were in a catch-22.

By doing it this way, they were able to continue raids, while still paying lip service to the letter of Obama's campaign promises, while completely disregarding the spirit of them.

The last time I saw a comparison was sometime in early 2012. At the time. Obama was rated as the least marijuana-friendly president since Clinton[0].

Suppliers (growers) are even more vilified than dispensaries. The further away you get from the patients, the easier it becomes to distract people from the actual patients who suffer and instead beat the "drugs are evil" drum.

[0] The first medical marijuana laws as we know them today were passed (at the state level) during Clinton's administration

There was another hearing in the Senate Judiciary Committee just 2 months ago because of these raids and the "recreational use" measures in Washington & Colorado. Canna-businesses' ability to get bank accounts to avoid the diversion and robbery issues around cash was discussed.

http://www.judiciary.senate.gov/hearings/hearing.cfm?id=094c... [there's a video of the hearing at the "Webcast" link. It's just a title card until 30:11, but you can seek ahead]

The DOJ Cole memo from Aug 2013 is at http://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/2013/August/13-opa-974.html

Witness list:

The Honorable James Cole, Deputy Attorney General U.S. Department of Justice, Washington, DC

The Honorable John Urquhart, Sheriff King County Sheriff’s Office, Seattle, WA

Jack Finlaw, Chief Legal Counsel Office of Governor John W. Hickenlooper, Denver, CO

Kevin A. Sabet, Ph.D., Co-founder and Director, Project SAM Director, Drug Policy Institute, University of Florida, Cambridge, MA