[ninjac0der]

Except it doesn't seem like people are saying "lets get this measurement right so we know what needs to be done". Instead it sounds a lot more like a self-righteous group determining what isn't and isn't the correct way to do things so that we can begin getting noise free measurements.

[thatthatis]

But all of that self righteousness is driving in the direction of lets try to fix the disparity through social change. I'm saying that even if we believe they're going to be wrong, we should try what they propose (in a structured and measurable way).

[ninjac0der]

So you want me to agree that it's a problem that the male to female ratio isn't equal before you've proven that the inequality is brought about by a bad reason as opposed to a natural and just reason? That greatly reduces my frustration as to why I'm not on board with any of this.

edit: "lets try to fix the disparity through social change" ...as soon as you do the due diligence and convince me it's broken first. Evidence of disparity in no way tells me there is a problem in need of being fixed. It's a lazy way to try and get people behind a misguided white-knighting movement.

[thatthatis]

I'm sorry, I don't follow what you're trying to ask or say here.