[azurelogic]

While I enjoyed and partly agreed with Uncle Bob's equivalent of "Get off my lawn", it would be excellent if he also proposed something that resembled a solution to the problem. I struggled at my first dev job because school only taught me the basics, not modern full-stack agile software engineering. I worked with a team that had everything from testing to deployment polished and near perfect. However, some of them gave me a chance, and today, I suck a lot less at writing good, clean, tested code. Our industry will need to continue to do things like that if we hope to improve over time. Otherwise, history will just repeat itself.

[memracom]

One of the problems with software engineering training is that few schools take the "engineering" part seriously. Instead they train programmers or software developers. If engineering was taken more seriously then they would teach SWEBOK and SEMAT along with coding. Of course, many schools would argue that software engineering is a young profession and that SWEBOK and SEMAT are not yet fully formed. But nevertheless we do have people that are trying to apply some engineering rigor to the process of developing software and there is something there for all of us to learn, even if these things take another decade or two to become fully formed.