[menloparkbum]

So you think in a span of 6 months, they conducted more tests, waited for the results, analyzed them, concluded Steve needed a new liver, put in the papers for the liver, received it, and finally gave him the transplant?

Yeah, that is how it usually works...

[rjurney]

No. No thats not how it works. Not when you already had a form of slow-metastasizing pancreatic cancer that usually shows up in other organs... like the liver, within your lifetime.

They knew he had cancer. They knew he needed a liver. They lied. So be it.

To be honest, when he started talking about 'nutritional imbalance' and sounding alternative mediciney... I assumed he was terminal. Thats how people get when medical science gives them VERY bad news.

I've thought he was dead, or nearly dead, for six months. I am very pleased to be wrong.

[menloparkbum]

What? What part of what I wrote is wrong? That's exactly how it works.

I have liver problems. It's not liver transplant liver problems but it's a problem nonetheless. Here is how I found out about it: I felt vaguely crappy for 6 months but just thought I was fatigued because I stay up late and don't have a very good diet. I finally went to the doctor for something else, they did some tests which initially signaled some problems that could be related to my liver or could be from something else. Then they do some more tests and I waited 3 weeks and they say "yeah it's your liver."

So Jobs loses weight through 2008, he goes to the doctor in January and they say "whoa initial tests show you are messed up, you need more tests." They make that announcement to the press. Then he gets more test results, he announces a week later that the problem is way worse than he thought, he needs a transplant, time for a leave of absence.

Of course if you're the kind of ghoul who plays death pool games it's more fun to imagine corporate conspiracy theories hiding his problem for months or years to keep the short sellers at bay. However, Occam's Razor would suggest that a typical male relationship pattern with the doctor's office is a more likely explanation.

[rjurney]

I think you underestimate the effect of his previous cancer on his diagnosis. That type is a ticking time bomb that usually spreads. I think if you had that form of cancer, they would have immediately been all over your symptoms. At no time do I think any doctor would have said anything about nutrition being the problem. That was a lie.

I don't think your experience is the same as his. For your symptoms, as a healthy guy... sure, six months is reasonable. For him? Not at all.

I just don't buy it. I don't think it makes him a bad person or anything, but I don't think I'm stating some kind of conspiracy theory either. He knew he was sick and lied about it. I still like the guy. :)