[dllthomas]

For the proper definition of "analytic framework",

"shut the fuck up and write some fucking code"

This is explicitly an assertion that there won't be anything important that can be added to the debate that cannot be expressed in code.

On the flip side, he absolutely doesn't assert that the particular model is the end-all in terms of anything - he expresses desire to see improvements.

[yummyfajitas]

I was contrasting using a mathematical model to simply repeating talking points and poorly thought out assertions (i.e., every discussion about BI that shows up on HN).

Obviously gathering data would be an incredibly valuable contribution to the discussion. I should have been more clear on that point, I guess I just thought it went without saying.

[dllthomas]

I can't speak for others in this thread, but I for one certainly didn't interpret anything you'd said as devaluing evidence. Obviously, data can be expressed as code...