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by lutusp 4599 days ago
I'm astonished that these questions get asked again and again, about fields that are obviously not sciences.

Fields that can and do test their theories against reality in practical, empirical tests, that discard falsified theories, and that have a corpus of supporting evidence that forces all similarly equipped observers to the same conclusion, are sciences. The rest are pseudosciences whose status is clearly shown by innumerable articles whose titles end in a question mark.

http://xkcd.com/435/

2 comments

I agree with your definition mostly; however, I disagree with your conclusion. In this sense, economics is a science.

Having a corpus of poor quality articles does not exclude you from being a science. Having dissenting groups, and areas where existing evidence permits more than one conclusion, does not exclude you from being a science. Quite the opposite: if there was no dissent, there would be no science.

> Having a corpus of poor quality articles does not exclude you from being a science.

That's true, but if all that exist are poor-quality articles, then it's not science -- there must be a corpus of testable, falsifiable theories beyond the chaff. This is why psychology isn't a science -- there are lots of poor-quality articles, and there's nothing else.

> if there was no dissent, there would be no science.

Nonsense. A scientific dissent must be accompanied by evidence, as does the thing being dissented against. Dissent per se means nothing in and of itself.

Microeconomics is a science by that definition. Mathematics is not (or not really).
I don't think mathematics was ever considered a science. See the definition of the 'liberal arts', which includes science and math as separate entities:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberal_arts_education

Mathematical proofs are falsifiable, and there are a lot of hypotheses, that are not proved yet: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_unsolved_problems_in_m...
> Mathematical proofs are falsifiable

No, they aren't. A mathematical proof is by definition unfalsifiable. If an error is found in a proof (as with Wiles' proof of Fermat's Last Theorem), that it isn't a proof ... yet. And mathematical proofs aren't empirical, another requirement for science.

Scientific theories are falsifiable in perpetuity because the possibility always exists for new empirical evidence to show up that falsifies an existing theory. This possibility doesn't exist for mathematical proofs.