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by dragonwriter 4613 days ago
> There's a logic problem with Basic Income.

No, there's not. At least, if there is, its not the one you claim.

> They want people to think either: 1- it will help me earn more (because I make less than the BI) 2- it won't change anything for me (because I already make more than the BI)

Who is "they"?

> But obviously, these two assertions can't be true at the same time.

They can both be true if the benefits plus (reduced) admin costs from BI come strictly from the benefits plus (higher) admin costs of the welfare programs it is replacing. (There are people who make less, in the short term, in that scheme, but its only some subset of the people who are making money from the admin costs of the replaced programs.)

They can't if you set BI at a level that requires more money than that, or if you do it without replacing any existing programs, but neither of those is inherent in the concept of BI (and the latter, at least, I've never seen proposed.)

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So you'll agree that there IS a problem IF the left wing is pushing towards BI: reducing administration (or state) footprint is more libertarian than anything. It's only credible if libertarians ask for BI... How funny!
> So you'll agree that there IS a problem IF the left wing is pushing towards BI

I didn't say anything that resembles that, no.

> reducing administration (or state) footprint is more libertarian than anything.

"Left wing" and "libertarian" are not opposed, and improving efficiency in achieiving left wing policy goals is not at all a view point incompatible with the left wing.

Heck, improving efficiency of government isn't incompatible with left or right wing, or libertarian or even authoritarian philosophies. Even authoritarian conservatives would probably prefer that, to the extent that liberal goals are going to be addressed by government at all, they ought to be addressed by the least wasteful means possible (if only so as to maximize resources available for authoritarian approaches to conservative goals.)