[Toshio]

I cringe at the thought that some people consider this to be startup-relevant news (or even hacker-relevant news, for that matter).

I flagged this submission, I hope the usual complainers understand why.

If you don't, by all means, please elaborate.

[xerophtye]

You really have something against Microsoft don't you? It's kind of weird that from the dozens of posts that appear on HN on a daily basis, most(more than 80%) of your comments are on posts about Microsoft or nokia. (and even when the post isn't about them, your comment is).

Oh and you actually do submit stuff about Microsoft, but they are all Anti-Microsoft posts. (do elaborate how THAT equates to startup-relevant)

As much as we hate shills who just blatantly support brands for no good reason, we also hate people who blatantly hate companies for no good reasons. HN is a place for reasonable debate. If you think Some big player did something right, you praise them. If you think they made a mistake, you point it out and discuss why it is a bad move on their part. But why the pure hatred?

[Toshio]

> "most(more than 80%) of your comments are on [...]"

I'm impressed.

You really took the time to perform an in-depth study of my submission/comment history, even figured out the 80% stat.

Slightly creepy but well-researched, kudos.

[sz4kerto]

I believe the fact that you can collaborate on documents online with a suite that offers you quite high level of compatibility with legacy documents is relevant. Also, a big player in the software industry implemented something significant.

It's probably much more relevant to hackers that how important role India plays in controlling AIDS (or, for that matter, the daily BTC/Tesla/etc. posts).

[Toshio]

Huh. I don't follow news about India/AIDS or BTC, but Tesla is a startup IIRC.

[DanBC]

> I don't follow news about India/AIDS

Are you honestly saying that you cannot see how smart people with excellent computing could possibly do anything to help with significant problems such as HIV/AIDS or world hunger or food insecurity?

Are you really only interested in news about the latest cat-photo startup?

(I'm not dismissing those web sites. People have fun, and winning a start-up lottery gives that person money to spend on good science.)

> Roving engine of chaos and snide remarks.

That's not a good thing, especially here.

[Toshio]

> Are you honestly saying that [...]

It looks like you are putting words in my mouth.

All I'm saying is that I follow a subset of news that's related to tech and startup. Which means I don't have an informed opinion on:

> how smart people with excellent computing could possibly do anything to help with significant problems such as HIV/AIDS or world hunger or food insecurity

or:

> the latest cat-photo startup

[pfortuny]

The fact that the most used office suite has added one of the most relevant features which may make it interesting as an alternative to google docs may be somewhat relevant to startups (they may be interested in using the 'most used office suite' again...).

But obviously, you are entitled to your own decisions.

[Toshio]

> they may be interested in using the 'most used office suite' again

Interesting twist, but I disagree.

If anything, startups would be interested in disrupting, not aiding, a staid, old, established player's contraptions.

[pfortuny]

I mean 'using' as in 'using a pencil, using paper, using the toilette', not as in 'showing them to the public'.

A startup needs infrastructure apart from their product.

[DanBC]

> I flagged this submission, I hope the usual complainers understand why.

Perhaps you could explain why you think this is flag-worthy? I could understand that you might find it unimportant, or dull. But you've flagged it, and declared that you flagged it, which suggests you have some strongly negative feeling toward it appearing here.

I'd be interested to see where you'd put this on a scale with all the other stories that get subbed to HN.

[Toshio]

> "strongly negative feeling toward it appearing here"

This isn't about feelings, I'm just adding a data point to HN ranking algorithm.

The reason I enjoy being on HN is because of this community's mindset of "let's disrupt the big, established, old players". Seen from that angle, this submission is irrelevant because it's not about disrupting a big player, it's about perpetuating a harmful monopoly.

[codeka]

But how can you expect to "disrupt the big, established, old players" if you're closing your eyes to what they're actually doing?

[DanBC]

It is said that if you know your enemies and know yourself, you will not be imperiled in a hundred battles; if you do not know your enemies but do know yourself, you will win one and lose one; if you do not know your enemies nor yourself, you will be imperiled in every single battle. -- widely attributed to Sun Tzu

https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Sun_Tzu#Ch._3

[rahoulb]

Not relevant if your startup never deals with any other companies; a huge number of which work entirely in MS Office.

[skrebbel]

Agree, but then the same should hold for all the 'samsung beats apple in the cell phone market' nonsense.

[Toshio]

I don't follow the Samsung-vs-Apple news, so I don't understand its relevance to the topic at hand.

[xerophtye]

But you do follow news regarding Nokia don't you?