[tony_landis]

Indeed. The whole reason for the existence of all these frameworks riot is being compared is to to simplify development.

Angular has no dependancies. Knockout also has no dependancies, so it's actually 13k > than riot.

For anyone who really serious about going minimal, here are some alternatives to jquery to build on.

9.7kb http://zeptojs.com/ 3.4kb https://github.com/rpflorence/snack 5.0kb https://github.com/julienw/dollardom/ 10kb http://xuijs.com/ <1kb https://github.com/honza/140medley

What a riot!