[Ives]

It's quite depressing that a 350$ phone will probably translate to 460€ in Belgium and the Netherlands. That's 626$ if you use the official exchange course between euro's and dollars.

We don't have phones on Google Play.

EDIT: Strike that, it's dropped to 399€, that's still 543$.

[Spittie]

$349/$399 isn't the price before taxes?

I'm not American so I'm not sure, but I think prices in America are always listed before taxes, while they're listed after taxes in Europe.

This makes it still cheaper in the USA than in Europe, but the margin is way smaller.

[Ives]

You are of course right, but I'm not sure if people in the US ordering over the internet actually pay sales tax on devices ordered from the google play store. It might depend on what state they're in though.

[rizzom5000]

The 32GB came out to about $445 after taxes and shipping in WA, a state with a relatively higher sales tax but no income tax. Since used 16GB iPhone 5/5c models are going for around $400 on Craigslist in the Seattle area, I think this phone is something of a bargain.

[sylvinus]

I'm getting 349€ from France.

[NatW]

In France it's 349€ for 16GB, 399€ for 32GB (+ 9.99€ shipping). Currently will ship by Nov 8th. (The VAT (tax) is included in the price).

[Ives]

On the Play store probably, which doesn't sell physical devices here.

[hbbio]

US price (San Francisco):

$349 + 8.75% tax = $380

French price (without tax for companies):

349E - 19.6% tax = 292E = $403

[poopsintub]

I can't be the only one thinking $350 for a phone you'll get rid of or hopefully trade-in in two years, is still a lot of money. Firefox, get your ass in gear and improve your OS!

[abeld]

Why would a new OS lower the price of the phones? Its the hardware that is expensive. In addition, in case of Nexus smartphones, it looks more like Google subsidised them, lowering the price.

[shiftpgdn]

Does that price include VAT? Many americans will pay an additional 5-10% over the list price due to local sales tax laws.

[dman]

How much is the iphone 5s for comparision?

[Ives]

700€ for the 5S and 600€ for the 5C.