[Osmium]

I've wanted to play around with one for a while, but don't want to commit until I've had a chance to live with it for a month. So, what would it take? A low price. If they offer a model at Nexus 4 prices, maybe...

I'd also like stronger per-app privacy controls and sandboxing. I have this vague idea that installing the wrong package on an Android phone can mean doom, and that many apps request permissions that are far too broad and on install time (rather than when they need them). I'm unsure whether I'm just ill-informed on this or not.

That said, I'm not a disenchanted iPhone user so perhaps your question wasn't aimed at me. I recently upgraded to a 5s and am very happy.

[MAGZine]

In regards to too generous permissions--I can certainly see that sometimes. The one flashlight app I was using wanted network connectivity, access to contacts, etc. The solution? Find a new one that only needs use of camera hardware. Not always the easiest thing to do, but certainly an option.

In 4.3, they silently included the App Ops configuration to offer gating of permissions. Mixology doesn't need Calendar access? Turn it off.

BUT, that said, plenty of apps DON'T ask for too broad permissions, and sometimes you'll even find that app devs will put notes in the patch notes explaining why they need to increase permission scope (if they do).

I don't know about this feeling about installing the wrong package can mean doom. Doom in what way? This seems a bit silly.

[Osmium]

Thanks for clearing that up for me. I meant "doom" in the sense of loss of personal information and/or spyware. Basically, the things you were outlining. I'm glad to know that you can control these things as of 4.3 though.

[astrada]

> So, what would it take? A low price. If they offer a model at Nexus 4 prices, maybe...

Previous leak shows prices starting at $349 for the 16GB model (http://www.theverge.com/2013/10/17/4850738/nexus-5-google-pl...)

[ruswick]

That combined with T-Mobile's $30-per-month unlimited plan makes for a ridiculous value.

http://www.gadgetreview.com/2013/06/t-mobile-has-a-secret-pl...

[pkulak]

Combine that with GoPhone or T-Mobile for $50-$60 a month and you can save a _lot_ of money over 2 years.