[krylonkid]

Whining is a pathetically accepted pastime in Europe. It assures they will never do anything about their position in the world, which should be equal or more with the US, and condemns them to live in a world where they are helpless.

[moocowduckquack]

We only settled into our long period of whining after stomping round the world and setting fire to bits of it whenever people complained. I sort of prefer us in our current mode.

[krylonkid]

Fair enough. Hopefully the US will eventually pull back and take better care of ourselves regardless of the consequences for Europe.

[moocowduckquack]

It would probably get a bit safer.

[krylonkid]

Weakness provokes aggressors.

[cpeterso]

So does state aggression.