[pjmlp]

I certainly hope so.

On iOS everything is native.

Since Windows Phone 8, Microsoft also went fully native, by pre-compiling MSIL to native code on the Windows Store servers. The devices only have a linker to perform the last step of replacing the symbols by effective addresses on load.

[Zigurd]

Everything being native isn't always a better way. Android's architecture keeps code small, makes sure nobody eats the global heap, shares common bytecode (really, anything) pages across processes, and provides memory-conserving modularity tools within each VM instance's heap. It's a pretty elegant system and the reason there hasn't been a lot of new work on the JIT may be that the JIT is as good as it can be without eating more battery.

[pjmlp]

> Android's architecture keeps code small, makes sure nobody eats the global heap, shares common bytecode (really, anything) pages across processes, and provides memory-conserving modularity tools within each VM instance's heap.

Global heap can be controlled by process in many OS, nothing special about VMs.

Sharing of code pages between processes has been done in mainstream OS since a few decades.

Memory-conserving modularity tools, whatever that might be, aren't VM specific.

The only issue you are right about, is that bytecode is much more compact than native code.

> ... the reason there hasn't been a lot of new work on the JIT may be that the JIT is as good as it can be without eating more battery.

The current JIT is good enough for developers writing CRUD applications, HTML wrappers or the "fart app" of the month.

Those of us that care about performance use the NDK anyway.

[Zigurd]

> Those of us that care about performance use the NDK anyway.

If you had said "People porting game engines implemented in C use the NDK anyway" you might be right, and they do that because re-coding the game engine is impractical, not for performance. But the implementation of large systems in Android is best done in Java, for reasons of performance, modularity, and power efficiency.

Managed language systems exist for a reason. Dalvik bytecode is much more space efficient than native code, and Google has claimed it is about 2x as space efficient as Java bytecode, and 2x faster to interpret. Those factors reduce the need for a JIT in Android, and, until Android 2.3, Android didn't have one, and there were plenty of ambitious, performance-sensitive Android apps.

The Android component architecture enables a kind of code swapping that enables large apps to fit in a single process with a limited heap size. If you are not making use of component objects, you are not being memory efficient.

Android's Zygote and the use of copy-on-write goes beyond sharing pages of "pure" code. Any page can be shared between processes this way. This keeps global memory use down and makes it efficeint to start many more processes that would otherwise be practical with a VM language.

The Android base classes, Java toolchain, and runtime are the most sophisticated and efficient managed language environment for mobile devices. Ignoring them and going straight to NDK code without a specific performance case based on measurements of Android Java code performance, the effects of the JIT, and code size is a waste of time and a source of bugs that will be harder to find and fix.

[pjmlp]

Sorry, but your comment reads out as Google PR about Dalvik. Even with your published books I am not buying it.

The only thing you are right about is that bytecode is more space efficient than native code.

Everything else is easily done in native code as well, it is just a matter of the OS providing support for it, there is nothing special about having to be a VM.

[Zigurd]

Much of the Android OS's middleware layer is implemented in Java, and runs in a Dalvik VM instance. Many parts of the OS are implemented as Service components and accessed through remote procedure calls - the same way installable apps can provide APIs to other apps.

Contrast this with the history of the CLR in Windows mobile devices. It was not taken seriously as an application platform. None of the built-in apps used it, never mind it being the basis for system programming. Android is a Java OS in a more meaningful way than running a CLR for some subclass of apps, which certainly doesn't make Windows a "C# OS."

Try writing a non-game Android application with every Activity component as a NativeActivity subclass. It will be painful to code, more painful to debug, and it will disappoint in performance.

I'm not just shilling for Google's architectural decisions. Prior to Android being released, I was working on wireless device OS that used Linux and a Java VM for userland software. I am very familiar with the performance increment obtainable using a JIT in a mobile device, and, as an alternative, in using a precompiled Java runtime. As in Android, the heavy-duty pixel-pushing in that OS was done in a graphics stack implemented in native code. Much of Android's widget set is also in native code. Unless you choose to do heavy computation on an Android device, you are not going to get a large advantage from a JIT, especially if your bytecode interpreter actually does perform 2X better than Java.

As for heavy computation on Android devices that's what Renderscript is for.

[pjmlp]

So why do native Objective-C/iOS and native .NET/WP 8.x apps work faster and more fluid than Android ones?