[th0br0]

I had actually expected something for "real" code. (e.g. Scala, Go, younameit)

While CSS3/HTML5 definitely made web design somewhat closer to actual coding (esp. on the CSS end), I still find it difficult to call renderer instructions in a markup language true "code".

However, this looks like an interesting tool! Too bad that you only seem to be aiming for OSX. Are ports planned?

[icambron]

It's a textural representation of instructions for a computer; it's certainly code. I think the distinction you're looking for is whether writing HTML/CSS/etc constitutes programming or not. That's a recurring discussion on HN (I've personally come around to the view that it is).

[mikeash]

Seems like a pointless definitional quibble. What matters is that when people see "code" used as a verb in this context on this site, they think of programming. Whether that's "what it means" or not doesn't really matter.

[icambron]

Descriptivism is all well and good, but I don't think your definition of the word is well established, even in this context. Did I miss a vote or something?

What this whole thing sounds like is, "I unilaterally made up my own definition of a word and I will correct people who don't use it that way and everyone who disagrees with me is just quibbling."

And regardless of the relative popularity of that usage, I can't see how I'm the one with the "pointless definitional quibble", since the context is someone calling out the author for using something other than their favorite definition of "code".

[mikeash]

Well, we'd have to poll the HN readership to make sure. However, do you really doubt that such a poll would result in anything better than, say, a 90/10 split in favor of "code means programming"?

I mean, if you do doubt that, that's fair enough. I just thought it was pretty obvious that in this community the word was used in a pretty restrictive way (thus the post complaining about it) and broader meanings were only found elsewhere.

[icambron]

I do doubt that, especially if it were phrased as "Is CSS code?" or similar. Though now I'm curious...

[mikeash]

I'd be interested in seeing the results of a poll either way.

In any case, my point is that even if we nail it down, all we're doing is figuring out what people mean by "code", not discovering any fundamental truths about coding or programming or HTML or anything.

[turingbook]

According to the story by Pandodaily [1], "It’s a native OSX app, but it was built inside a customized version of Google’s Chrome browser. " I guess that it will be relatively easy to target Windows and Linux if they want.

[1] http://pandodaily.com/2013/10/17/macaw-a-kickstarter-funded-...

[dubcanada]

I believe it is using CEF, so porting it to either OS's (including Linux) will be pretty easy.

[wasabian]

OSX and Windows seems to be the targeted platforms according to their Kickstarter FAQ.

> We have no plans to bring Macaw to Linux at this time. Once the Mac and Windows versions are released we will look into Linux.

http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/macaw/macaw-the-code-sav...

[GhotiFish]

I can understand not paying any mind to linux for other developers. It's a mostly unused platform for almost all demographics... except actual developers.

This is not the kind of application I was expecting to "not support linux". That said, They're not actually supporting windows right now either, so I guess for designers only. Oh well.

[th0br0]

Thanks. I only saw the app store mention when you watch the preview video and thought it was OSX only.

[lifeisstillgood]

Can I put in a vote for a language based entirely on anonymous lambda functions called 'younameit'?

please :-)

[namenotrequired]

Me too - I expected something about sketching / visualising how a programme works before you write it. :)

[hackula1]

The headline should replace "code" with "markup" for clarity.

[bryans]

It's more than a submission title problem. The tagline they're using for the product is actually "the code-savvy web design tool". Perhaps I'm just an unreasonable person (it is just a single world, after all), but I have trouble getting behind any product for which the creators can't accurately describe.