[gtaylor]

They're going to bring Mir/XMir in for an LTS? That seems to be risky to me. These large Canonical-backed projects seem to have a whole lot of rough spots on launch day. upstart and Unity both were very buggy initially.

Or is this going to be one of those cases where they come out aiming for LTS, but end up pushing it back to the next release?

[randallsquared]

Rick Spencer said last night at a release party that he expected that 14.10 would have Mir, since otherwise his team would have to support early-2014 Mir for years, which he didn't want to do because it's still improving so quickly.

If I understand correctly, Mir is currently used only on the phone edition.

[gtaylor]

Did you mean 14.10 would have XOrg, or am I reading this way wrong?

[randallsquared]

I mean that Mir will not replace X until 14.10, so the 14.04 LTS release will still use X by default. A lot of people have been worried about Mir being launched as the default desktop display server in an LTS, and when I spoke about it with Rick, he said that he wasn't planning for Mir to be the default in 14.04, and the reason why was that it was changing rapidly still, and the Mir they could put in 14.04 would likely not have stopped changing rapidly yet, but would have to be supported in a bugfix-only fashion for years after 2014.