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So what? These aren't criticisms of today's release at all.

Mir isn't even used in 13.10.

I don't think there are any distributions which ship with i3 so you would have to install i3 in any case, that isn't a fault of Ubuntu's and since you are not using it anyway, who cares if it looks like OS X to you?

Ubuntu's work is open source, the code is there under a liberal license, what do you even want?

If you don't like software center, use apt-get or synaptic. Their "App Store" isn't for you but I am glad they have one to encourage a market for Linux software. If you don't like it, don't use it, it's not harming you.

I don't know what developer SDKs have to do with anything. This isn't Android, it's normal Linux. Write a Linux app and it runs on Ubuntu.

Why would I look at OpenSUSE if I do not specifically want an RPM-based distribution oriented toward KDE? If those are your preferences then why are you even complaining about Ubuntu?

[baldfat]

So what? These aren't criticisms of today's release at all.

Mir isn't even used in 13.10

BUT they are spending resources on Mir WHEN they could have just gone with Wayland.

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> BUT they are spending resources on Mir WHEN they could have just gone with Wayland.

They can spend resources on what they like. This isn't a zero sum game. This doesn't take other Free software away from you. This doesn't remove other Free software from Ubuntu's repositories.

> they could have just gone with Wayland.

I don't pretend to understand the technical details. But they seem to be the only ones pushing a full traditional distribution onto a phone. They've made it happen.

This is Free software. You go use Wayland on your phone that you don't have and enjoy whatever full traditional Linux distribution that doesn't exist there, and I'll use Mir on the phone I can have today and enjoy a standard Linux distribution on it.