[Volpe]

Yeah! Other people/cultures are just downright offensive, why can't everyone be just like me, share my values, and think exactly like I do!

Or alternatively, perhaps we can respect other peoples world views without judging them within our own limited set of cultural values.

[stcredzero]

You can't have a multicultural civilization without some framework in which one makes judgements. A member's values (shown by actions) can't be incompatible with a multicultural society. Such a society would be too tolerant and wouldn't last.

[Volpe]

I'm don't quite get what you are saying, but I also note, you are just saying it without backing it up in anyway.

Why wouldn't it last?

Why can't some members be incompatible with others?

Why must there be a framework to make judgements on others?

The United States is a good example (in a lot of ways) of successful multiculturalism (it's a bad example in some ways as well). But no official language, no restrictions on belief, the only consistant thing is a 'rule of law', is that what you mean by a framework for judging?

[stcredzero]

You can't have a stable multicultural situation where a part of the population can make multiculturalism impossible. Yes, you must have rule of law. You must also promulgate the ideology of multicultural tolerance itself. You cannot tolerate a certain level of intolerance.

[Volpe]

Yes you can. The United states are my go to example for this as well. There are a number of White Supremacist groups in the US, which (mostly due to rule of law) are contained from ruining multiculturalism as whole (they probably have significant local effect). But they still are free to hold their beliefs and practice them (amongst themselves).

[dwaltrip]

Tolerance for tolerance's sake eh? I don't think that endlessly and gratuiously chasing wealth is a healthy way to live, why should I change my opinion?

[Volpe]

You referred to it as reprehensible. So you are basically saying that their culture is reprehensible (As the striving for wealth is well and truly part of Chinese culture).

That's fine to not like it your self... but to condemn others... That seems more than just intolerant, that is verging on bigoted.

[dwaltrip]

I admit, my words may have come off stronger than I intended. I am not trying to condemn all of Chinese culture. I do think that some ways of living are better than others, and it should be fine to discuss these things. But I could have framed it more nicely, that is fair.