[joshuareeves]

I'm the CEO of ZenPayroll and I want to apologize for any misunderstanding with this post. Our intent was to highlight the business critical nature of payroll and the fact that we spend a lot of time making sure things are done correctly.

There are many definitions of the term "hacker" and I strongly believe there is no single right way to build software. Every team has to find the approach that's right for them and I want to sincerely apologize to anyone that was offended by the terminology we used.

We're proud to be a part of the YC and HN community, and many of my teammates are avid participants in HN.

If anyone wants to chat more with me directly, my personal email address is [e-mail].

[pbreit]

I think you messed up with this post. You've apparently alienated to some extent one of the company's best and most prominent friends. And I believe most of the post's readers will feel you've mis-defined what it means to be a "hacker".