[ekianjo]

There have been tons of economies which worked before on the Gold standard, which has been the model for the bitcoin "mining" model. I know nowadays you have lots of Keynesian economists who tell you that going in debt to the death and inflating the money supply is a good thing, but you have to look at how things worked before and why it made sense to have a limited supply currency.

[21echoes]

the difference being that they kept discovering gold. bitcoin will effectively eventually run out.

[ekianjo]

Nope, the new discoveries of gold were usually marginal vs the actual worldwide gold reserves. Bitcoin is following the exact same model. Mining will become marginal over time.

[bicknergseng]

>>the new discoveries of gold were usually marginal vs the actual worldwide gold reserves

I think 17th century Portugal and others would have something to say about how "stable" commodity monetary systems are over long periods of time.

[ekianjo]

Because you think fiat currencies based systems are way better? How stable is your system going to be when you expand your credit line to the infinite just because you can print/create money which has no intrinsic physical value ? Fiat currencies hurt the future generations and not just the present ones.

[21echoes]

you think gold has "intrinsic, physical value"? you think bitcoin has "intrinsic, physical value"?!

why have almost all currencies used throughout history had a significant fiduciary element? why has the world constantly cycled between bullion and fiat currencies? why do you think bullion currencies are more common during times of warfare?

when are countries incentivized to "expand their credit line to the infinite"?

would you rather have a currency that can modify its inflation/deflation rate based on any number of relevant factors, or a currency whose inflation/deflation rate is tied to the rate of mining of some rocks in the ground?

[ekianjo]

Gold has physical value, yes, because it is relatively rare on Earth and has interesting chemical and physical properties that can be used in several ways. And on top of that, it's dense, can be melted, and does not corrode over time. Therefore making is a good tool to represent "money".

> why do you think bullion currencies are more common during times of warfare? Because inflation runs crazy during warfare and therefore people trying to save their earnings go for gold, silver and others in order to avoid losing the face value of their fiat currencies. And by the way, the Gold standard was abandoned in History mainly to fund the war in Europe during the 1st world war, and then later in the 20th century because of the expenses of the US military policy during the Cold war.

> when are countries incentivized to "expand their credit line to the infinite"? Look at the current situation in the US. Everyone knows they will never pay their debt, yet it keeps growing. You can expect things to crash hard down the road.

> would you rather have a currency that can modify its inflation/deflation rate based on any number of relevant factors, or a currency whose inflation/deflation rate is tied to the rate of mining of some rocks in the ground?

The later, obviously, because Gold is neutral and does not belong to any government. The US Dollar, the Euro and other fiat currencies are all controlled by different central banks with different agendas. I have no control over what they can do in the future. But Gold is tangible, and there's not much Gold being extracted nowadays to change the face value of it.

Why do you think China is building a huge Gold reserve currently, and buying Gold as much as they can from all over the world? Do you think they are just plain stupid ?