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by abolibibelot 4637 days ago
>God is Public spending, the clergé is the public workers that pay no taxes and get to retire early with big salaries and lots of privileges and the Tiers état is the people paying for the rest. http://leblogalupus.com/2013/10/09/charles-gave-la-france-es...

Yep, because as any Friedman loving economist (like Charles Gave you're linking to) will tell you, there's only one God and it's the Market.

>So one of the best doctors is paid 21€ and 7.5€?

No, you see, that's the thing about Social Security (you seem to know so much about), that's what the OP paid, the rest was paid to the doctor by the Social Security. This is well documented in http://www.securite-sociale.info/ you should take a look.

>See, this is where we disagree. It is my company, my private property. I should be able to do as I please with it as long as don't mess with other's freedom, this is a constitutional right in the declaration of human rights, private property is sacred.

"There is just one God, and it's private property". Where did you find "private property is sacred" anywhere in the declaration of human rights?

>Are you serious? The richest man in France has left and many of the top richest famillies have left: LVMH, Lacoste, Peugeot etc.

Yep and Apple, Google et al. don't pay any corporate taxes. Surely, the problem is the taxes.

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> Yep, because as any Friedman loving economist (like Charles Gave you're linking to) will tell you, there's only one God and it's the Market.

Oh but I love Friedman too. And what's wrong with the market? What else is the market but people freely exchanging goods and services voluntary? What is more peaceful than two people making a voluntary deal? What are we entrepreneurs doing if not that? See Friedman's famous pencil example http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OlTRau_XgGs

> No, you see, that's the thing about Social Security (you seem to know so much about), that's what the OP paid, the rest was paid to the doctor by the Social Security.

That's my point, 21€ and 7.5€ is what you see, what you don't see is the 60% income tax we all pay to get this. Not really that cheap anymore.

> Where did you find "private property is sacred" anywhere in the declaration of human rights?

omg, really? You haven't even read the first line of the declaration? Here you go:

"dans une Déclaration solennelle, les droits naturels, inaliénables et sacrés de l’homme"

Article 2:

"Ces droits sont la liberté, la propriété, la sûreté et la résistance à l’oppression."

Well, that was easy :) http://www.assemblee-nationale.fr/histoire/dudh/1789.asp

> Surely, the problem is the taxes.

Good, now you get it.

Finally here's another good one from the 1789 act:

"Un peuple libre n'acquitte que des contributions, un peuple esclave paie des impôts »". A free people pays bills (ie from private companies), a people of slaves pays taxes. Yep, that's from our founding fathers. Milton Friedman and Ayn Rand could not have put it better. Have a nice day citoyen :)

Friedman is a hack ignored by anyone with half a brain. Same with Ayn Rand. They say incredible things, if you don't spend much time thinking about it.
Anonymous coward fivethree says Nobel price Friedman and best sellers Ayn Rand are hacks. Hey people, pay attention, we should ignore these two starting today!
Also the entirety of respected academics in economic, philosophy, and literature. Those guys probably aren't important.