[jmadsen]

Right - because inefficiency in government programs is a purely American thing.

We have affordable, universal health care because we've eliminated all forms of waste & corruption from our governments, and are left with a stream-lined, Indy 500 car pit type system.

I don't think so.

Get off it already - America doesn't have a decent health care system because insurance companies pay off corrupt congressmen to make sure you don't have one.

[raldi]

I'm not sure you're disagreeing with him. His point is that the US government has a history of creating huge expensive projects riddled with inefficiencies and which, quite often, yield a disappointing final product.

Saying that one of the causes of that is corruption is not exactly refuting the claim.

[andrew_gardener]

I believe his main point is that its not just the States that has a corrupt/ineffective government. Other places with there own government problems have managed to gain some form of public free/cheap healthcare.