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by bookface 4632 days ago
If this involved Apple, the article's headline would be "Apple using forced student labor to build iPhone"
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I prefer

"Steve Jobs Tortures Chinese slaves from beyond the grave."

Indeed. This title should properly reflect that Sony is responsible.
Maybe they don't know though. Imagine you contract out some work, say building a website, to party A. How do you know they did it? Maybe they sub-contract.

While I'm sure Sony's contract has lots of details in it, there is probably no "don't trick university students" clause and Foxconn saw an opportunity to do something underhanded and increase profits.

It's someone's job to know. I knew a buyer at a major office supply company. The buyers' responsibilities included occasional visits to the factories where suppliers made the products that were bought and then put on sale in the stores. This particular company had standards that they held suppliers to. When a buyer found workers at a factory with duct tape on their mouths, people living in squalor in the "dormitories", child labor or any other nonsense it was not uncommon for those suppliers to be thrown out of the store if it was not corrected. This was for a few million dollars worth of back to school supplies.

There's no way someone enters into a multi-year, multi-million dollar contract for high end electronics without ever visiting the factory and knowing what goes on there. They know damn well what kind of conditions exist and chose to do business with the supplier anyway. If they didn't know then they're too stupid to have their job.

I may just be cynical but I think there are still shenanigans going on. Like the link posted above

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6525582

You can't be everywhere all the time and you have to actively do audits to make sure you're satisfied with your factory conditions.....

But even if you personally visit the factory, how do you know that guy in a mouth cover working over there is a college student being forced to work?
They absolutely know.

I awarded a Chinese factory with a low five figures contract and I know exactly how everything is processed and made. For billions of dollars or purchase orders, I am pretty sure you can expect at least the same level of service.

From what I recall this is actually against the code of conduct that Sony makes all their suppliers sign (which includes a prohibition on forced labor), so it's probably a breach of contract.
I think Apple uses foxconn as well.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foxconn#Major_customers

They do. I remember all of the parts in my G4 Cube having "FOXCONN" stamped into them.
I'm sure that we will see that headline applied to this case as well with other media outlets.