[telephonetemp]

> Hacker News but without the "OMG we're going to become Silicon Valley entrepreneurs and make meeeelions of dollars" stuff

An interesting thing about Hacker News is that here you can read and talk to people who have become Silicon Valley entrepreneurs and made millions of dollars.

[frostmatthew]

That's only "interesting" if you find the entrepeneury stuff interesting. What I initially liked about HN was the links and discussions regarding software development. I now prefer reddit to HN because the appropriate sub-reddits offer much more of that (and without all the "OMG 11 secrets to grow your startup" stuff that I don't find at all interesting).

I posted an article about C++ to reddit a few weeks ago and Andrei Alexandrescu commented in the discussion (multiple times). That was extremely exciting for me, and likewise I imagine many HNers get as (or more) excited when PG comments on something they submit here...but please don't assume that's why everybody is here.

[tommorris]

Yeah, but I don't care about entrepreneurship or becoming an entrepreneur or about Silicon Valley. I'm a programmer not a businessman.

More than that: I like being a programmer and don't want to be an entrepreneur. Compilers lie to me less regularly than humans do.

See http://tommorris.org/posts/2491

[disputin]

Glad to hear this. When did geeks start looking like yuppies?

[lelandbatey]

That is one of my favourite things about HN by far. It was a very surreal moment to realize that I'd had a very public conversation/discussion with Paul Graham. That's something I've never seen or experienced on other sites before.