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by drakaal 4633 days ago
God didn't come. New testament says he sent his son.

God supposedly walked with Noah's Grandfather, much better "biblical proof" especially since old testament has more acceptance on earth than the new testament.

Your physics sucks: Multiverse theories make two assumptions: 1. There is as much Matter as anti-matter, and thus you could nullify the entire universe. 2. Every coefficient of Gravity/Time/Magnetism/Universal force is represented in a multiverse and those verses don't interact.

The universe's size is "larger than observable but not infinite". The Universe expands at the rate of the maximum traversable speed. So even if you started towards the edge at the moment of the bang you can't ever reach the edge. That is different than infinite. But as humans we tend to say infinite for anything that is bigger than fits in our head. Just like in Algebra when you say a function approaches infinity. X divided by 0 is never actually infinite.

Your Religion Studies sucks. As pointed out "God" sent an emissary and didn't show up in both Christian and Muslim religions. Disproving the "Proof" that is the written history of God's visits on Earth is as simple as pointing out contradictions. There are 2 creation stories in the old testament, so which one is right? If Jesus was the son of God, why did he say washing your hands wouldn't prevent you from getting sick? (Mathew 15:11) Did he not know about Germs?

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Heh. Sorry for misunderstanding scripture. Not my strong point.

> The universe's size is "larger than observable but not infinite". The Universe expands at the rate of the maximum traversable speed.

Really ? 1) Then how did it get larger than observable ?

Either by being infinite in the first place, or by expanding faster than the "maximum traversable speed". Assuming Einstein is right, it's the first one. Choosing the second option requires explaining a lot of coincidences : we know through observation the edge of the universe (the point beyond which we can't detect matter) lies within ~2 million light years of the "event horizon" from the perspective of earth. Are you seriously saying that's just a coincidence ? Note the corollary, answering yes, means that the earth is the center of the universe +- 2 million light years (and if you accept somewhat more iffy measurements, you'd conclude that the center of the universe lies within our solar system and it's moving). What are the chances of that ?

2) how do you know it is finite ? Can you point to even a single measurement that makes it even just somewhat unlikely ?

> Your Religion Studies sucks. As pointed out "God" sent an emissary and didn't show up in both Christian and Muslim religions

Jee ... I truly wonder why God's son didn't stroll through muslim regions in 0 AD ... despite muslims claiming otherwise, there weren't any muslims back then. So this is not an inconsistency.

The two genesis, have you actually read how they arrive at that. They pull a single text apart (sentence 1 -> text 1, sentence 2 -> text 2), see a weird pattern (the stories make sense if you split out the sentences like that), declare them 2 separate stories and find them contradictory. First of all, this process is pretty farfetched, and if you don't split up the sentences, they still make sense (granted, there are some hard questions that have no good answers, but certainly not enough to declare them inconsistent).

Second, assuming they did originate as separate stories, this was obviously an attempt to reconcile them logically, which was the whole point I was making : Christianity attempts to be consistent, I did not claim it succeeds 100%, just that it's pretty good compared to the competition. I gave the example that islam does not claim to be consistent at all. If you talk to muslims about that, inconsistencies are, first of all, not a problem, second if you need an explanation, they're just allah's mood swings. The God of Judaism and Christianity is good, and consistently good (he does not randomly attack people unless they deserve it somehow). Allah, on the other hand, is what might be termed "generally merciful to the good", nothing more. No matter how good a muslim you are, you cannot count on allah's help for anything, they're pretty clear on that. When it comes to world religions, the islamic case is "normal" : most religions have gods that mass-murder for fun, or simply because they're angry or even just because they're bored.