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by MarkMc 4637 days ago
I understand you feel cheated Adobe, but I feel the need to present their side of the story.

> But, again, Adobe tries to backstab its users. IF you cancel your CC subscription before 1 year, you will be billed 50% of the total amount (50% of ($45x12)) as a penalty. WTF?!! So, basically they want to beat their users to the ground as much as they can.

What you call 'beat their users to the ground' I call 'charge fees which maximise their profit'. They are not being deceptive - their price list clearly states, "Requires annual commitment; billed monthly" [1]

> There is no easy way to buy CS6

If you Google "buy adobe cs6" the first result [2] allows you to buy a CS6 'Master Collection' licence for $2,599. Just click 'buy' then 'Add to cart'. Seems pretty easy to me.

> there is no easy way to subscribe to CC for just a few months

Not true - as pointed out by estel, you can easily subscribe for $75 per month. I think by 'easy' you mean 'cheap'

> the calculations they demonstrate are also deceptive at best

Can you provide a link to the deceptive calculations? Because to me the price list [1] seems to be fairly straightforward and honest

> CC is more expensive than the boxed product.

Doesn't that depend on how long you use the software for? You can buy a single month for $75 - I doubt that you can get the boxed product for cheaper than that.

> One thing that was common in most of these Adobe contacted bloggers' posts, was how their stress to explain how the CC version was effectively cheaper than their boxed version.

If it is true that Adobe implicitly says, "write good things about us and we'll give you free stuff" then I agree that this is pretty bad behaviour. (But if they say, "here is some free stuff, please write good things about us" then that would be OK as long as the blogger notes in their review that they had received the free stuff.) The fact that bloggers who received free stuff had previously wrote good things about Adobe is not sufficient to convict Adobe of indirect bribing. It could be that the bloggers who did not receive free stuff also wrote good things about Adobe (ie. their products are generally viewed positively)

> Backstab #1. I was a Flash developer previously. I was even jobless for a few days because I relied so much on this technology…Do you know how many Flex developers are jobless now? Backstab #2.

It sucks to lose your job, but is it really 'backstabbing' for Adobe to drop support for a platform they developed? For all software I expect the companies who develop it to say "this is a great product and we fully support it" right up until they day they drop that support. It's not like Adobe said, "we will support this product until at least 2015".

> [The CEO] is never straightforward...This guy is incompetent and needs to be replaced.

Personally I think it is very straightforward to say, "I refuse to discuss our pricing strategy with you". But in any case the CEO's job is to maximise profits - and using the strength of Adobe's market position to charge nosebleed prices sounds to me like he is doing just that. Not at all incompetent.

> At least someone should file a class action suit for abusing their monopoly.

It's not necessarily illegal to have a monopoly and charge a very high price for your products.

[1] http://www.adobe.com/products/creativecloud/buying-guide.htm...

[2] http://www.adobe.com/products/catalog/cs6._sl_id-contentfilt...