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by unoti 4646 days ago
There are cases where leaving a greater-than-normal lane spacing makes sense, in the interest of safety. Safety is something utterly ignored in the fascinating analysis in this article. For example, if I'm in a left lane buzzing along at wide-open freeway speeds and the right lane next to me is congested and backed up and not moving, I leave more than normal spacing in front of me. Why? Because it's very likely that someone stuck in the right lane is going to dart out in front of me or the driver in front of me, and very likely that I'm going to need to make a very sudden stop. It's just unsafe to cruise along at 75 mph next to hundreds of cars that are looking for an opportunity to jump in front of me.

The prisoner's dilemma also applies to this. Behavior that is "optimal" for a single individual in terms of getting to destination is not what's optimal for the collective in terms of safety. And optimal behavior for getting to destination is not the optimal behavior for safety or lower stress driving, either.

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You probably shouldn't be cruising at 75 mph next to a lane of stopped traffic regardless. Leaving more space between you and the next car wouldn't seem to make that practice significantly safer.

I agree that the optimal behavior isn't universal though. One example I'd cite is that I always leave more space when the vehicle in front me is so big that I can't see what's in front of it since that limits my reaction time to what that one vehicle is doing rather than what's going on further ahead.

I'd argue that safety directly translates into speed as well, as a single accident can shut down 1-all lanes of the freeway and result in several hours of delay for the parties involved. So even being selfish you'd have reason to err on safety's side
Shouldn't you leave less space, to dissuade people from jumping in the gap?
No - because you don't know what's going on in front of you, and you may need to stop suddenly.
If you want to prevent people from jumping the gap, speed up.

If you want to be safe from random edge cases (like someone in front of you slamming on the brakes), slow down.

I'd leave at least a minimum safe distance between my vehicle and the one in front.

But Parent suggested that it's a good idea to leave more space in case someone jumps in. I'm not sure I understand that - if they jump in it's always dangerous because you don't know what the person behind you is going to do and you don't know when the jumper is going to jump in. Thus, you want to try to prevent them jumping. This is achieved not by giving them more room (which encourages jumping) but by leaving less gap (reducing jumping) but still leaving the safe minimum.

The stopping distance of my car (a Lexus IS300) at 70mph is 171 feet. So I know I need over 14 car lengths in front of me for me not to hit anyone with brakes at full power.

Do I actually leave that much space in front of me every time I drive 70mph? Hell no. But the slower the cars beside me are going, the quicker i'm going to hit one if it pulls in front of me. If they were going 70mph too, I would only have to brake down to, say, 65mph, which would should only take a second. But if they're going 10mph, I now have to come to an almost complete stop to prevent from hitting them, which as you can see above is a lot of car lengths.

In every case, if you can't predict what people around you are going to do, it's better to leave more space in front. If the guy behind you is following closely and might rear-end you, leave more space so that you can slow down gradually, instead of slamming the brakes and inviting collision. If the car ahead of you might have to slam on the brakes, leave enough space that you can slow down gradually.

If someone in the lane beside you might cut in front of you, leave more space so that you can see them making their move and react in time. That reaction might be to speed up and prevent them before they change lanes, or to slow down and let them in, but in either case, leaving more space is a better idea than tailgating.

I prefer to be pessimistic about other drivers' ability to judge whether they have enough room to cut in front of me. I'd rather not try to go fast enough to "discourage", as there will inevitably be some person who either doesn't notice me, or misjudges my speed (via a side view mirror) and mistakenly thinks he can cut in front of me safely.

A lower speed increases the chances of this, but reduces the risk of a catastrophic result. ;)

No! Read the original article this author is trying to critique.