[VeejayRampay]

Isn't part of the problem the fact that Ruby is ridiculously slow? I'm not even trolling, I am a Ruby programmer, I've used the language for about 5 years now and seeing friends of mine run their 200+ files test suite in under half a second (C programmers), I can't help but think about how nice that must be to be able to run your tests when you want to without thinking of the consequences (and yes I understand comparing C and Ruby is ludicrous, just pointing to the fact that Ruby is still extremely slow and would very much benefit from a good speed bump eventually).

Cause slow tests as a symptom pretty much means that if you're not an excellent programmer then tough sh*t, testing will be slow and painful, which ultimately drives people away from those good practices.

Also, I find ironic that Rails (as a framework that is supposed to empower people and make them efficient) is, according to many comments in this thread and "tech pundits" conducive to the kind of tight coupling and dependency that will lead to bad design choices and slow tests.

[pan69]

>> and seeing friends of mine run their 200+ files test suite in under half a second (C programmers)

But they need to spend half hour compiling before they can run their tests.

[tongue in cheek obviously]