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by nezumi 4645 days ago
Sort of off-topic, but does it bug anyone else that the militaries and governments of the world continue to refer to 'cyberspace' as if 'cyber-' was current Internet jargon? (Whereas in reality I only see it used for that other thing we are supposed to be making instead of war...)
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Cyberspace is distinctly separate from meatspace.
If only there was a way to hack their vocabulary and disrupt the way they say things!
What other word would you use?

Cyber is pretty clearly defined among the people who use it. Other words are not.

Got to admit though, "cyber" sounds very 90s.

Now excuse me as I continue surfing the information super highway!

Or very 40s when Norbert Wiener published "Cybernetics, or Communication and Control in the Animal and the Machine".
William Gibson's books are early 80s!!! (Burning Chrome, 1982)
> Cyber is pretty clearly defined among the people who use it. Other words are not.

Maybe the people using these terms (ie, people creating a "defence force" for the UK) should be more in touch with... more current lingo?

Sure would give them at least a vague sense of credibility if they called this something more like an internet/network orientated security... force.

On the otherhand, maybe these people having the massive tell of proclaiming "but this is CYBER." is a good thing? We know to dismiss what ever they're suggesting as uninformed and generally a terrible idea.

Well at one point one minster referred to recruiting "cyber Jedis" personaly I would stick to a short barreled M4 (piston variant) and a Glock plus a hold out derringer and a kukri as my bladed weapon choice.

the names Howard bob Howard :-)

> should be more in touch with... more current lingo?

What is "more current lingo"?

> an internet/network orientated security... force.

It isn't Internet specific. It isn't just about networking.

> What other word would you use?

Maybe not a single word, but "technology and information warfare"?

Going back to the ur source I woudl suggest "hardcore" for DA and "softcore" for recce and sigint type work :-)

its a William Gibson reference for you youngsters

Because information warfare is an entirely different, and existing, branch of the military. Think hearts and minds operations.

They need a new term.

Non-geographic and abstract spaces defence force.
Not really it's very well established and unambiguous.