[corresation]

We are talking about the Apple iPhone 5s. In that context, anyone not a moron knows exactly what I am talking about. Shush, you have zero interesting things to say and are just a defensive blowhard. Maybe Apple will send you a t-shirt or something.

[corresation]

I'll take every down arrow, but it is nonsense that melange isn't sitting in the sub-zero realm as well. Their garbage post was factually wrong, added absolutely nothing to the discussion, and is the classic demonstration of a buyers' defense.

[melange]

Please offer some kind of reference supporting your claim that the arm chip in the iPhone 5s is power inefficient.

[corresation]

You mean the ARMv8 processor that doesn't exist? How about the fact that the iPhone 5S includes a significantly higher capacity battery, but in any CPU usage scenario sees a sometimes significant longevity regression.

[jryle70]

So iOS 7 plays no part in power consumption? only the CPU? how about apps?

This is AnandTech's iPhone 5s battery review: http://www.anandtech.com/show/7335/the-iphone-5s-review/9

The 5s outperforms iPhone 5 in four out of five tests. Regression was only seen in one scenario. The thing is, I don't remember coming across any smartphone review, iPhone or otherwise, that single out the CPU as the source of power consumption change. It's always a combination of different factors.

Now it's totally possible that the new CPU is a power pig as you claimed. Unless you can provide proofs that validate it, though, I have to agree with others that you're making it up.

[corresation]

The 5s outperforms iPhone 5 in four out of five tests. Regression was only seen in one scenario.

The same review that notes the increased power consumption of the CPU? That one?

The iPhone wifi, display, and surrounding platform is identical to the iPhone 5. The LTE/3G chipset is improved (not surprising as it's a considerable power consumer, which was why Apple held out on LTE for a while). On the wifi test, where all else is the same as before, the iPhone 5S saw a 10% longevity decline despite a 10% larger battery.

Quite humorous seeing so many so desperately defensive about this, when the original (and completely unsubstantiated) claim was that going to 2GB would be see a marked increase in power consumption. We know from these very results that you provided that the device did see a 20% or more decrease in longevity, mAh to mAh, despite the fact that the CPU is generally a small consumer of power (for the whole device to consume 20% more power, the CPU had to have increased significantly more). Power "pig" is relative, and obviously it's a ridiculously low power processor by any normal metric, but compared to the one they replaced it with...yeah.

[jryle70]

>The same review that notes the increased power consumption of the CPU? That one?

What's your point? It's a beefier SOC, and possibly more power hungry. Nobody disputes that.

You've tried to frame rebukes of your posts as "desperately defensive". For me I take issue with what you said below:

> The power consumption angle is a complete and utter non-issue. It generally comes up as an apologetic canard to justify Apple's choice here, but in the >holistic sense the power difference between 1GB and 2GB is negligible. Note that the ARMv8 processor, however, is a serious power pig

You seem to be absolutely sure, with numbers to back it up. You dismiss the OP as "completely unsubstantiated", but ironically you can't prove your points either. Should I take you seriously?

[melange]

If there was a reference to support your claim, you would have provided one. As I said before - you're just making this stuff up.

[corresation]

You are a boring blowhard. You continually demand evidence of others while providing absolutely nothing of substance yourself, aside from a demonstration that you're a flag waving Apple "fanboy". You are what is wrong with technology discussions. Again, shush. Go somewhere else.