[ptlu]

There is a difference between default apps and apps for which the manufacturer was paid to put on the phone in order to advertise to the purchaser.

Apple does not get paid by another company to load its default apps onto the phone.

[KaoruAoiShiho]

What do you call newsstand? It's a purely magazine advertising service. Would PizzaHut app be acceptable if it was called PizzaStand and allowed you to select from multiple pizza vendors?

[j-g-faustus]

Call it FoodStand, let if fill with food vendors in my neighbourhood (preferably those who offer delivery), and I'm all for it.

That would transform PizzaHut from an obnoxious ad ("seller oriented") to a genuinely useful option I would probably use on occasion ("customer oriented").

I dislike intrusive ads (and spending good money on a physical gadget just to be met by "congratulations, and incidentally you've also bought into a lifelong relationship with this pizza vendor" is intrusive).

But I don't mind being told that "newspapers are here, food is over there"; I might even find it useful at some point.

I still think it would be nice if Apple would let me hide the non-deletable apps I don't use: Let me hide the newsstand icon, pop it up again if I ever decide to subcribe to a newspaper.

But the newsstand doesn't grate me the way a permanent link to any particular magazine would. Any particular magazine is unlikely to be my favorite, it might even be one I hate. That doesn't imply that I hate magazines, newsstands, pizza or food in general.

[malandrew]

... but still allow me to delete it if I prefer using another food ordering app instead like GrubHub.

The only apps that should not be deletable are core apps like settings and the app store.

Even those should be deletable if it asks you to designate another app on your phone as the replacement for that core service. That replacement app should be API compatible with the data store of the phone itself.

I should be able to replace Apple Maps with Google Maps. Camera with any number of other Camera apps. Photos with any other local photo browsing app. Calendar with something like Fantastical. Weather with something like Yahoo Weather. etc. etc.

[cscurmudgeon]

A proper analogy on the Apple side would be "ShittyHut" where you can buy only magazines from Shitty Magazine Inc and nothing else.

E.g, a "Cosmopolitan App" that you can't delete and can use to only buy Cosmopolitan.

That is the proper analogy here.

[tedunangst]

I think there would be a lot less dissatisfaction with a generic Pizza app.

[r00fus]

It's a default app. It doesn't come with any content, nor any branding on it's icon. You're analogy does not hold.