[rocky1138]

From my perspective, the reason they didn't catch on was because they took forever to load and most did gimmicky things like the cheezy water effect. If they had used it to make a YouTube-alike back in the day, it might have caught on.

[jebblue]

I see your point but Youtube (good example BTW) wasn't even founded until February 14, 2005, this was long after the Java battles of the late 1990's.