[CraigJPerry]

I'm a fussy bugger sometimes :-) Over the years I've learned to shy away from vim plugins.

In my experience they're always missing a crucial motion or two and it just becomes counter productive for me to keep stumbling into the missing command. I think it's the curse of vim, we all use different subsets of its abilities!

Another factor is the vim layer tends to be incomplete in terms of functionality exposed by the host application. ST2's Vintage mode (which i did play with) is a good example of this problem.

EDIT: brain fart

[sillysaurus2]

Same. With the sole exception of ViEmu, every other Vim simulator seems to disappoint. E.g. Emacs plugins that simulate Vim.

[zem]

netbeans's jvi is essentially a straight port of the vim code to java, and is therefore remarkably complete.

also emacs's evil mode has come a long way.

[sillysaurus2]

Thanks, I'll check them out. Here's to hoping.