[dnautics]

>Well, there you go, you've said it yourself. What you are talking about is not universal healthcare. Debate over, closed; we aren't even talking about the same thing. You are in no way, shape or form talking about universal healthcare, don't even delude yourself that you are - in trying to define it you are explicitly defining against it.

Well, then any case I give you you will define away as no true scotsman, so yes, our debate is over. I think you have an idealistic and privileged view of what universal healthcare is that is completely closed-minded to the reality of it and the inherent flaws of it, and for that reason you will never understand my argument.

> but it does seem inherently more just.

Yeah of course, the US system is terrible, but if you're comparing the universal healthcare to the US system, I'm going to let you know, the bar is pretty damn low.