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most frustratingly this is another datapoint that won't matter much in the current slew of punditry aimed at talking Apple down.

just go back to the HN post of the 5s launch event and it's full of doomsayers.

seems like apple is going against the very fabric that unites neckbeards around the world - and is crazy successful. just like carmakers that stopped catering to the tinkerers. here's to the crazy ones.

next week? we'll return to the usual apple is doomed because innovation and open blabla.

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and to illustrate my point, HN post, a mere 12 days ago:

Apple's Windows 95 problem. http://blog.raavel.com/2013/09/11/apple-problem/

"Apple recently unveiled its new iPhone 5s and 5c models, to a collective “meh”. The stock sold off and is poised to continue moving lower. The market is telling Apple that it is not innovative enough and that its need to do much more, and within that lies the crux of Apple’s problem."

But yeah, a lot of comments, falling over each other in their collective agreement. will that same random blog now turn 180 and consider it's failure?

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Will that same random blog now turn 180 and consider it's failure?

No.

(Queue a half dozen responses about how Apple actually has failed by selling more phones than both Nokia and Blackberry last quarter in a single weekend. Sometimes, I think people who think Apple is a failure are actually it's biggest supporters, because really, who but those most invested in the company's success are pushing for it to do better? You'd only call them a failure if you thought they could do better, right? So...tell me who the Apple fanboys are, again?)