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.NET certainly gets the brunt of the "it's not hip" posts. Yea, there's a lotta junk programs, because they make it easy for people to use in an enterprise. There's also a lot of junk java, etc.

That's why you play around on the side with all the new stuff. Using ASP.NET MVC lets you write much leaner html, without the need for all those controls, et al. They're releasing a lot of cool tools if you follow the blogs, and you can now just as easily create a clean bootstrapped page as you would in other offerings.