[beachstartup]

if you're working with people who "can't even dream" of going on a vacation to another part of the world you might want to set your sights a bit higher.

[spaboleo]

I totally disagree with this! There are obligations, such as young children that clearly might keep one from jumping onto a plane for 20h (from Europe) to get to south-east asia.

[beachstartup]

1. young children grow up

2. every long flight i've been on has had screaming babies

3. especially the ones to/from asia