[onebaddude]

I'm not sure that "student aid" and student loans are the same.

This discussion also seems to be missing the fact that students who attend many of these for-profit schools are poorer and thus more likely to default, regardless of the quality of education obtained. Any study is useless without an adjustment made for median household income of the student (and perhaps high school GPA).

[jlgreco]

"Because 96 percent of students starting a for-profit college take federal student loans to attend a for-profit college (compared to 13 percent at community colleges), nearly all students who leave have student loan debt, even when they don't have a degree or diploma or increased earning power."

"Most for-profit colleges charge much higher tuition than comparable programs at community colleges and flagship State public universities. The investigation found Associate degree and certificate programs averaged four times the cost of degree programs at comparable community colleges. Bachelor's degree programs averaged 20 percent more than the cost of analogous programs at flagship public universities despite the credits being largely non-transferrable."

People going to public schools are getting loans for unjustifiably expensive 'educations' which are nearly universally absolutely worthless. That is why such a staggering number of people attending for-profit schools have trouble.

You can dig up more and more data, looking for a way to make for-profit schools look good, but all you are really doing is shoveling more data onto the heap of reasons why they are predatory shitheads.

[dnautics]

we're not necessarily trying to make for-profit schools look good, we're just sick and tired of disproportionate attention being laid upon for-profit schools when non-profit schools (of a certain tier) are just as bad if not worse but seem to be escaping the amount of scrutiny they are due. The sins of for-profit schools are being used to whitewash institutions that hide under the nomenclature of their IRS designation.