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by cousin_it 4667 days ago
> What is wrong with this? If people are voluntarily engaging in these activities, is that not a good thing? Well, if people genuinely enjoy those activities, then maybe so. And sometimes that is what happens. But often, my experience at least is quite different...

That's an important point which is often lost on proponents of "revealed preferences". It's explored in more detail in Yvain's essay on the want/like distinction: http://lesswrong.com/lw/1lb/are_wireheads_happy/. Here's a quote:

> A University of Michigan study analyzed the brains of rats eating a favorite food. They found separate circuits for "wanting" and "liking", and were able to knock out either circuit without affecting the other... When they knocked out the "liking" system, the rats would eat exactly as much of the food without making any of the satisifed lip-licking expression, and areas of the brain thought to be correlated with pleasure wouldn't show up in the MRI. Knock out "wanting", and the rats seem to enjoy the food as much when they get it but not be especially motivated to seek it out.

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Right now it's 1.30 AM where I'm living (a studio apartment in a crowded building) and I can hear my neighbor hitting the concrete wall that stands between me and him and screaming at his girlfriend "Just leave me alone! I can't even finish a quest! Leave me alone!". Apparently he's playing WoW.

He's been doing this (screaming in the middle of the night and hitting the wall) regularly since they've moved next door approximately two months ago, all of it caused by his "deaths" that happen in an online game. The first time when I heard him I thought this was just your casual "mad guy who gets upset when drinking too much", but seems like I was wrong. The only thing which I can't still understand is how come said girlfriend is still standing by him, I can hear her from time to time asking him "please be a little quieter".

I feel exactly this way about reddit and programming, respectively. Guess which I've been doing more often...