>Perjury, also known as forswearing, is the willful act of swearing a false oath or of falsifying an affirmation to tell the truth, whether spoken or in writing, concerning matters material to an official proceeding.
Is he under oath? Does it rely on interpretation or perception of the facts? I'd love for everyone one last of these crooks to lose every lifeline left in their lives, left to flip burgers and to live on the spoils of their own work, but if they've gotten away with this much, WHAT court is going to find them punishable? I really can't imagine anyone involved having a tougher life after being found taking our country for advantage, like has been done, and that is extremely and deeply crushing.