[tylerkahn]

Incessantly cynical distrust of the government is the new blind patriotism.

[BetterLateThan]

It is impossible to overmistrust the State. If you could imagine the lows they will go to, you'd be working for them by now.

[Houshalter]

Is it really impossible? Do you think there is literally really no limit to what they can do or what they will do?

[glimmung]

No, but they operate at a scale beyond our comprehension, and use reasoning beyond our comprehension (or mine, anyway!), so it's not too clever to imagine that we can anticipate their limits...