[microtonal]

Motorola and now Nokia, the last of the previous era big wigs have fallen.

Actually, Nokia was slowly and steadily on a rebound in the markets where they were traditionally strong. E.g. market shares of Windows Phone in the five largest European economies has grown from 4.9% a year ago to 8.2% now [1]. That's almost half the marketshare of iOS (17.3%).

Most of those units were Nokia Lumias.

Sure, it's not where they were years ago percentage-wise, but the smartphone market has grown enormously since then, and WP is showing good growth (except in the US).

Source: http://www.nu.nl/tech/3565096/windows-phone-groeit-nieuwe-sm...

[whattssonn]

Are those WP's in the hands of customers or still in the sales chanel? I suspect the last, and i do not trust those numbers. It's MS after all. If you don't know what i mean with that last sentence then learn the "classics" first.

Btw, nu.nl is not a source, really not a source. Tweakers.net is also not a source, too biased (i know you didn't mention tweakers, just sayin').

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[microtonal]

Are those WP's in the hands of customers or still in the sales chanel?

The report [1] speaks of sales and actually claims that 42% of the sales are actually coming from feature phone owners (who probably like the price point of the Lumia 520 and all). Retail channels are not feature phone owners ;).

Btw, nu.nl is not a source, really not a source.

Of course it's a source, but you can dispute its reliability. For a substantial part of the Dutch population it is reliable enough to read daily. And it's not as if they have an agenda here.

Tweakers.net is also not a source, too biased (i know you didn't mention tweakers, just sayin').

So, what's the point of dragging Tweakers.net into the discussion?

[1] http://www.kantarworldpanel.com/Global/News/Record-share-for...