[jawngee]

I'm in Saigon. Use 8.8.8.8 for your DNS, unless you are accessing via 3G.

I use unblock-us.com for my home network.

Honestly, I don't see how they plan on enforcing this except for having a look see at already well known dissident bloggers.

And, frankly, I think this 9X generation, which seems to be drowning in unprecedented narcissim will flip this whole place on its head when they get a bit older. Vietnam will be an even more interesting place than it is now when that comes to pass.

[state]

Had to look up the "9X generation". For those interested: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/9X_Generation

[jawngee]

There's a few things going on here that I think are going to have serious influence on the next 10 years.

First, the 9X kids, as I mentioned before, want what the rest of the world already has. They've had a taste and I don't think they are willing to concede.

Second, a lot of Viet Kieu (Vietnamese from abroad) are returning and they have a lot of money. They're going to also want to maintain some semblance of what they've grown accustomed to in Canada, US and Australia. If there is anything I've learned from living here, money can buy almost everything.

The rest of SE Asia is growing at a faster rate. Vietnam is only really beating Indonesia.

I think what most people don't get is that communism here doesn't mean what you probably think it does. Capitalism is huge here and it's only going to get bigger. So, one or the other is going to have to give.

Finally, this decree is kind of toothless. They have neither the money or the knowledge on implementing it. Their idea of blocking facebook was (Facebook is generally available anywhere now) to block some DNS entries.

[xuki]

You would be naive to think they don't have the capability to block Facebook (or any site, for that matter).

[shirkey]

By what measure is Vietnam beating Indonesia?

[jawngee]

Sorry I was really tired when I wrote that, I meant Cambodia not Indonesia.

[runn1ng]

>they are also willing to reject established traditions, ignore elder class values, listen to classical music

>classical music

What?

[UncleHo]

I was using 8.8.8.8 for my DNS (I think it's google DNS?), but it was ridiculously slow for me. Wasn't sure if I was being penalized somehow for switching DNS provider and ended up changing back to my IP's DNS.

It's a good point about the 9Xers. I don't know how politically aware or motivated they are, but I do know that, like the rest of us, they want free access to information and communication. Even if it is just to send instagrams of their bun cha.

[gizmo686]

Switching DNS providers could cause problems simply because your new provider doesn't do as good a job in your area, not because of any intentional penalization. You could try opendns (208.67.222.222), or some other 3rd party provider.