[RougeFemme]

>"The product side needs to provide a set of requirements, and the development side needs to find out what the client needs, and how to deliver it. The development side has to have enough product knowledge to determine the actual need, not the stated want"

When I've been in "QA-ish" roles and worked with developers like this, I loved them - and told them so - which was the last thing they expected from an extrovert. I was OK with the ones who DIDN'T have the product/business/user knowledge, but were willing to listen to what I had to say - even if I was saying you/we/I need to go back to the product side for clarification; I don't think this is what they really need/want. And I've battled with those developers who neither had nor wanted any business/user/product knowledge AND didn't want to talk to the product side or listen to QA AND still wouldn't listen to QA after QA got clarification from the product side.

Of course, ideally any clarification is received before or - at the latest - during coding, but life ain't ideal.

[soneca]

Lost in slashes here.