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New frameworks != improvement of the language.

PHP was shit then and it's shit now. I earned my first money by writing things in that language and I'm very glad that I moved away from that particular technology and web development in general.

[jmcgough]

When is "then"? I'm a rubyist, but I worked with PHP for a year and was impressed with how far the language has come in the last decade. Before PHP5 (2004ish), the language wasn't really even object oriented. In the last few years, PHP has gotten garbage collection, namespacing, native JSON support and others.

I really dislike PHP as a language, but it's not fair to call it shit. The language is maturing.