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by sologoub 4689 days ago
Well, wrote an epic rant/rebuttal to the "hard work is just a story" and by the time I finished the link to post expired... So I'll be brief.

The argument that hard work is just a story is deeply offensive to me. Social mobility in the US is one of the highest it has ever been in history. AND this social mobility is non-violent! This has NEVER happened before in human history. Just think about that for a minute before you get on that soap box again.

Look at the crop of "new money" rich that technology has produced. Why? Hard work and value creation. Instagram may not be value in the sense of gold bricks, but the connections it created surpass most communication mediums in history. Still think it's just a photo app?

Sure, things aren't great right now. American exceptionalism and infectious optimism aren't what they used to be. Many of us are downright embarrassed by the current political situation. Forget that, I'm mortified by the disregard for the rule of law. But that doesn't mean we should take our proverbial ball and go home.

Hard work has made an incredible difference for me and my family in several generations, spanning Soviet Union and now US. No rhetoric can take that away from us.

What concerns me most, is that you seem to lack respect for your own work. I sincerely hope you find that respect. If you do not value your own work, how can others? How can you respect your trade? Your peers accomplishments?

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> Social mobility in the US is one of the highest it has ever been in history

No, social mobility in the US has actually decreased fairly significantly in the last 50 years, and is much lower than other countries. That the US is somehow highly socially mobile is an enduring myth engrained in our collective psyche that is utterly wrong at this point.

It took me less than a minute to google "social mobility in the US today" (non-leading query) to find the following examples with data (and there are many more from other respectful sources):

1. http://www.economist.com/blogs/democracyinamerica/2013/06/in...

2. http://www.businessinsider.com/social-mobility-is-a-myth-in-...

On a related note, take a look at the US's gini coefficient, which measures income inequality (and strong predictor of social unrest):

http://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2011/09/map...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gini_coefficient

We should try to lower this number as much as possible!
>It took me less than a minute to google "social mobility in the US today" (non-leading query) to find the following examples with data (and there are many more from other respectful sources):

Non-leading query. Hahahaha. As if that matters. There are two types of articles written on the topic, and you found the one you were looking for. This is evidence of exactly nothing.

NB: the presence of a '%' in an article does not a well-done study make. Further, studies on this topic have been commissioned by double-blind souls approximately never.

Maybe on average yes, but these averages do not represent ability to become financially independent. What they are based on is comparison of earning power of generations and other markers, such as education levels.

By these measures, if you are after 50's style middle class living, it is true, Australia offers a much better bet. Here's an article on a miner making 200k: http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000142405297020462190457701...

With proper saving and conservative living, you can easily save enough to be relatively secure.

I'll keep working in tech here.